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March 2011 Extra: Glorious

March 2011 Extra

In this show, Professor Derek Ward-Thompson tells us about the early stages of star formation and Libby talks to Dr Jay Farihi about locating the remains of planets around white dwarfs. Dr Iain McDonald answers your far-out questions, we bring you the latest astronomical odds and ends and there is a round up your feedback since the last show.

Interview with Professor Derek Ward-Thompson

Professor Derek Ward-Thompson works on the earliest stages of star formation at Cardiff University. He speaks here on using ALMA to see through the layers of dust in the interstellar medium to reveal binary stars in the process of forming. He also explains why stars spin as a result of their formation, and talks about the unusuall case of a binary star system with stars spinning in different directions.

Interview with Dr Jay Farihi

Dr Jay Farihi, from the University of Leicester, is trying to answer the question: "What will planetary systems like ours look like when the central star becomes a white dwarf?" In this interview, Jay talks about his compelling evidence that contamination by heavier elements in white dwarfs is a result of rocky planetary debris, with perhaps as many as 20% of all white dwarfs contaminated in this way, and he discusses the implications this has for the proportion of stars which have terrestrial planetary systems like the Earth.

Ask an Astronomer

Libby Jones puts your far-out questions to Dr Iain McDonald:

Odds and Ends

Space Shuttle Discovery ended its 27-year career on 9th March when it safely touched down at 16:57 GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) at Kennedy Space Center, Florida. Discovery has spent a total of 365 days in space during 39 flights, and will undergo a month of decontamination before being put on display in a museum. Endeavour will be the next shuttle to retire, and its final launch is scheduled for 19th April. Atlantis, the last of the shuttles, will retire a few months later. After this, NASA astronauts will be transported to and from the ISS (International Space Station) using the Russian Soyuz rockets. Discovery's final mission lasted 12 days and delivered to the ISS a new store room and a humanoid robot called Robonaut 2 (also known as R2). Over the next year, R2 will be thoroughly tested to make sure that it incurred no damage during transport. It currently weighs 300 lbs (140 kg) and will be mounted on a pedestal in the ISS, awaiting leg attachments which should be shipped within the next year. R2's dexterity and humanoid form allow it to use the same tools as the astronauts.

NASA's Glory satellite unfortunately failed to detach from its Taurus rocket after being launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. Intended to measure the Earth's energy balance from space, it instead ended up lost at sea.

The Panoramic Survey Telescope & Rapid Response System, or Pan-STARRS, is a wide-field telescope which observes the whole of the night sky looking for potentially dangerous asteroids. On the night of 29th January, the telescope set a new record by spotting 19 asteroids, the most found in a single night. This has led to some discussion regarding the classification of planets. One of the definitions of a planet as set by the International Astronomical Union states that a planet "has cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit". Some say this means that Earth should be demoted to the status of a dwarf planet, like Pluto, though what it really means is that our definition of a planet might need revision.

A number of news organisations reported the scientifically unfounded possibility that the earthquake in Japan could have been caused by a so-called 'supermoon', an event in which the Moon is closer to the Earth than usual. The proximity of the Moon varies during a month as its orbit is elliptical, but it also undergoes a similar variation due to the Sun's gravitational pull, and this month comes closer than it has done for 19 years. We get tides because the Moon's force is greater on the near side of the Earth than on the far side, and the difference is greater when the Moon is closer and when the Sun and Moon line up to pull in the same direction (causing the higher spring tides). These tidal forces also affect the solid part of the Earth. But the largest effect is that of the daily tides which occur due to the Earth's rotation - these have never been shown to correlate with the frequency or strength of large earthquakes, nor has the distance from the Earth to the Moon. The earthquake in Japan also occurred eight days before the Moon's perigee (point of closest approach), when it was only a little closer than it commonly gets. The Moon will, however, appear bigger than usual on 19th March, so that is a good time to look at it.

A space beer has been manufactured by an Australian brewing company. This stout, named "Vostok" after the spacecraft flown by Yuri Gagarin in 1961, has a stronger flavour to mitigate the loss of taste due to astronauts' taste-buds swelling in space, and a reduced carbon dioxide content to prevent gas expanding in your stomach in zero gravity.

We mentioned the Amateur Astronomers Association of New York in the show.

Show Credits

Interview:Professor Derek Ward-Thompson and Libby Jones
Interview:Dr Jay Farihi and Libby Jones
Ask An Astronomer:Dr Iain McDonald and Libby Jones
Presenters:Scot Hickinbottom, Libby Jones, Mark Purver and Christina Smith
Editors:
Segment voice:Lizette Ramirez
Website:Stuart Lowe and Mark Purver
Producer:Mark Purver
Cover art:Computer simulation of the formation of a binary star system in the early Universe. Credit: Copyright Matt Turk and Ralph Kaehler

Comments

  • Comment by Mark Purver on Mar 18 2011:

    It's another extra episode! We have the last two ALMA-related interviews, as well as Iain McDonald answering your questions. Comments, corrections and clarifications welcome as always.

  • Comment by EarthUnit on Mar 24 2011:

    Just a quickie to say thanks to Mark, Libby, Adam & the crew for another great show,
    There was however one bit of important information missed out, that was what flavour ice cream would you put in the dish ? LOL


    PS regarding the effects the moon can have, I remember reading ( or was it TV programme) that said the moon directly over head can lift the surface of the ocean by about a metre, anyone know how much a low pressure weather system lifts the surface.
    No real reason for wanting to know this, just idle curiosity..... :-)

  • Comment by Jodatheoak on Mar 24 2011:

    Earthunit - Check this out its awsome
    http://www.this-magic-sea.com/TIDE.HTM

  • Comment by EarthUnit on Mar 24 2011:

    thanks for the info jodatheoak, I stand corrected, that's what I get for taking things for granted.
    I suppose next you'll be telling me that two plus two doesn't equal five ! LOL :-)

  • Comment by Jodatheoak on Mar 25 2011:

    EarthUnit I wasn't correcting you, I was adjusting your stance so you could see more...
    I can't get my head around the fact that the moon pulls the earth and not the sea!
    I need more clarification, what say you Joders?

    I think Libby is a natural interviewer and I'm likeing all the new voices.
    Great suff joders

  • Comment by EarthUnit on Mar 26 2011:

    'No worries' Jodatheoak, no offence taken, any way I would prefer to be corrected then thinking something is right when it isn't . I just always assumed the moon pulled the sea more then the land, as you say it takes a bit to get my head round it. Thanks again for the info.

  • Comment by Scoty on Mar 28 2011:

    @EarthUnit - I think personally I would be going for a Neapolitan or maybe Rum and Rasin...I am not sure what I could eat the most of!

    As for the moon and pulling the Earth question, I think I am going to have to remain silent on it for now. I need to read it over a bit more to get my head round it myself before I start trying to clarifiy it for other people! Though I am sure another jodcaster will be able to explain it for you all!

  • Comment by EarthUnit on Mar 28 2011:

    Hi Scoty, think I would have to go for banana flavour myself, yum.
    anyone Know anyone good at maths ? how many litres of ice cream would fit in the dish.

    Has for the Moon, I re-read a book on Galileo, and think I have a good ( or should I say basic) idea of what's happening now, I got a bit stuck on way doesn't the beach lift up as well as the water, but I have taken one of my pills and am ok with that sloshing about in my head now. :-~

  • Comment by Jodatheoak on Mar 31 2011:

    Earthunit, Before you posed the question I was thinking the same way and didn't know about the pull on the land...

    Walls vanilla soft scoop...would you use less or more to fill the bowl?
    Better hurry as I have tonsillitis and need lots, about asmuch as it would take to fill the dish!

  • Comment by csmith on Apr 01 2011:

    Well I can't explain everything but I believe this is the explanation behind the moving land: gravity is inversely proportional to distance (as distance increases, the strength of gravity decreases). So, (just taking the Earth and the moon) the force from the moon acting on the far side of the Earth is smaller than that felt on the near side. Also, the Earth isn't a completely inflexible sphere, so it distorts and bulges - raising the land. Both the sun and the moon do this and so the net effect is a combination of the two.

    The land is denser than water and gravity is proportional to mass, so the gravity effect should be larger on the heavier object (land), but I would guess there would be some issue to do with how easy it is to distort the water in comparison to the land etc, but I don't know much about that... so not sure if that has helped things or not...

    As to the ice cream issue - Ben and Jerry's Phish Food. Definitely. :)

  • Comment by EarthUnit on Apr 03 2011:

    Thanks for the info csmith, but you have ruined my day :-(
    Seems I am still adding 2 & 2 together to make 5

    I was quite happy with my understanding of Galileo's idea, e.g. a hammer & a feather fall at the same speed ( or should that be acceleration), so in Earthunits mind, the land & the sea are pulled equally and it's just that the sea sloshes about ( a lot more then the land ) that caused the tides.

    The sooner the April edition comes out in English the better, and I can worry about something else LOL. Thanks again everyone for taking time to try to help :-)

  • Comment by Stuart Lowe on Apr 03 2011:

    Just thought I'd add my tuppence worth.

    Csmith is correct that the gravity, due to the Moon, on the side of the Earth closest to the Moon is stronger than on the opposite side of the Earth. It is the *difference* in strength of gravity across the Earth that causes tides. The size of the tidal effect depends on the mass of the massive body and how close it is. So, although the Moon is much less massive than the Sun, it is much closer and the difference in gravity across the Earth due to it is bigger. Tides are caused in everything - rock, magma and oceans. The land is also stretched but doesn't move as much as oceans because rock is stronger and harder to compress/expand. The oceans are much more able to move "up" and "down" due to the tidal effect. Just think how much easier it is to deform a water balloon than a similarly sized ball of rock!

    In the (astronomical) past, when its rotation rate was faster than its orbit around the Earth, the Moon would have had tides in its own rock. The Moon would have been stretched and squashed as different bits faced the Earth. That stretching and squashing of the Moon turned some of its rotational energy into heat and slowed it down. Eventually, the Moon's rotation slowed down to match the orbital rate. At that point, the same side always faces the Earth and no more changes in stretching and squashing takes place (it stays stretched and squashed as it is). This is called "tidal locking".

    Io is a good example of how having a different rotation rate to your orbit, whilst close to another large body (in its case, Jupiter) can cause tides in the rock. Io is constantly stretched and squashed and that heats up the insides and causes all the volcanoes.

    EarthUnit, the Earth's rock and sea are pulled equally but the sea can move up and down a lot more easily than the rock can.

  • Comment by EarthUnit on Apr 03 2011:

    Thanks for the clarification Stuart

  • Comment by Stuart Lowe on Apr 27 2011:

    EarthUnit, I missed your question about how many litres would fit in the dish so thanks to Jodatheoak for pointing out that omission via Twitter.

    From memory, the volume of the Lovell Telescope is pretty close to a quarter of a sphere of the same diameter as the dish. The diameter is 76m so I make that around 58 million litres. Of course, you'd have to seal up all the holes to stop the ice cream running out the bottom! Plus, it isn't designed to hold that much weight so would collapse whilst only part full.

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